What was the sound you and The Essentials were going for to set yourselves apart from what I remember to be just a lot of regular standard rock

bands? You know, there were two things I remember from the time.

One thing was...

I was really into blues, you know, blues based music and starting to get into kind of like maybe slightly darker sound, but I didn't like the whole sloshy bar band sound of a lot of the bands that were playing live.

Right.

And I really liked the kind of crisp sound of the new wave that was coming or, you know, coming out around that time.

And, and yeah, Although I never wore a skinny tie, I kind of thought that those skinny ties and those suits they wore kind of had that sharp vibe, sharper, less sloshy vibe to the music.

Yeah, tell us about that setup.