Mm-hmm.

And they get a good team.

I mean, they're an efficient offensive team.

They compete in their league every year.

It's just, oh, scat daddy.

Some of the non-conference games, they go on the road.

They're on the road.

You're right there.

I wish UAPB a tremendous amount of success as well as UCA, OBU, everybody.

UAPB is... obviously a team that in the non-conference, talking about November and December, they take on an incredible schedule.

And you probably remember the head coach is Solomon Bozeman, heck of a basketball player.

And they got a good team, you know, I mean, they're an efficient offensive team.

They compete in their league every year.

It's just, Oh, scat daddy.

Some of the non-conference games, they go on the road.

lsu is kind of a wild card don't you think

shooting

game, right? But he was aggressive.

He didn't have a lot of opportunities in the first half, but he stayed aggressive towards the second half.

And I'll tell you, the other kid too, the backup point guard that came in, Thompson, kid's under control.

Good shooter.

Now, the one thing that early on, you could see a little indecisiveness, and I think that led to a couple of careless turnovers.

And then the second half, you could see this get sort of settled in and said, let me catch, make a move, and not be a little bit too hesitant.

How would you rather have, how would you play it as a, as a kid? How did you like it? And as an adult now, what do you like?

tournament.

We got screwed, literally got screwed in the SEC tournament by an official.

We were in a timeout, and he puts the ball down during our timeout and stopped counting.

And we ended up losing the game with a buzz in Georgia.

So it's like, yeah, well, we deserve.

And yes, did we win enough games? No.

Was it a room full of 12 people say you guys didn't deserve it.

I saw Duke play.

PB, were you for or against expansion of the NCAA tournament in March Madness?

I, so from a perception of, like, for the teams, players and coaches and administrators and fans, I'm for it.

Yeah.

Only because, like, there's so much money for a player to, and I get it.

We can get, like, on a soapbox saying, oh, yeah, you don't deserve it.

And I get that, too.

Like you didn't do what you needed to deserve it.

Yeah,

Do you hear anybody talk to you and ask you, "Hey, man, your Razorback football team, what's going on there?" Do you hear any of that, uh, nationally?

Um, I wish they would.

It's just because I think, you know, I got a, a friend of mine who's a volunteer fan, and it's, uh ...

You know, I talk to him over the weekend and it's, it's, it's, it's almost like an afterthought.

I hate to say it, you know? But, you know, going into that game, I, one of the stats or, uh, something that came up that I was surprised was Tennessee had more in favor since 2001.

That was probably the wildest thing that I heard.

I was surprised about that.

You just can't.

Do you hear anybody talk to you and ask you, "Hey, man, your Razorback football team, what's going on there?" Do you hear any of that, uh, nationally?

Um, I wish they would.

It's just because I think...

You know, I got a, a friend of mine who's a volunteer fan, and it's, um, you know, talk to him over the weekend.

It's, it's, it's, it's almost like an afterthought.

I hate to say it, you know? Um, but, you know, going to that game, I, one of the stats or, uh, something that came up that I was surprised was Tennessee had more in favor since 2001.

That was probably the wildest thing that I heard.

You just can't.

you watch a game

um oh yeah of course what else do i get to do actually i there was a uh It was a big beanbag tournament that I missed on Saturday just to watch the game.

But it was, yeah, I mean, you knew, you know, it's tough to, you look at it and you say, are we, because it was just a methodical beatdown by Georgia, right? It was just, and that's what they do to a lot of teams.

So you try to, say is it the talent is it the scheme is it you know what and we were overwhelmed on both of those things but just every time I watch it's just hard to imagine that there's that big of a difference in whether it is talent scheme and of course you know there are a few plays out there where what was it that was the was it the second quarter, first quarter, where the kid just, again, looks like he's got butter on his fingers, just kills the drive.

So it's just...

And they didn't even beat the spread.

They didn't beat the spread.

Basically, you both think that we suck.

Is it Hunter Urechek? Or are the Arkansas Razorbacks just now going to have to just decide to be a basketball school and be done with

it? No.

No, no, no.

We can't do that.

I mean, it was just incredible.

I thought the first drive was promising in some ways, right? Moved the ball a little bit.

You know, throughout, I guess, the way the first half ended was horrible.

Yeah, they could have scored a lot more.

Uh, is it Hunter Yurachek or are the Arkansas Razorbacks just now gonna have to c- c- just decide to be a, a basketball school and, and be done with it?

[laughs] No.

No, no, no, we, we can't do that.

I mean, it was just, it's in- it was just incredible.

I thought the first drive was promising in some ways, right? Moved the ball a little bit.

Um, you know what? I, throughout, I guess, you know, the way the first half ended w- was, was horrible, but then I started to watch as much as I could from television the body language of the guys.

And it just seems...

Maybe third.

Yeah.

He was named as let go, but he is, you want to talk about a guy who's been in the business 30 plus years.

He's done football, too.

I think he still may do radio or other things with football, but That's a guy coming up next year who obviously is going to have all the time in the world, and he's been through it.

You could ask him about... everything you know especially well yeah

so you were 11 years wow holy cow so you did get a lot of great ones over let's say Pat was the longest running co-host for Justin yeah you got me Joe Green you got Earl Campbell you got you got all those man you had some really good ones

yeah we had good ones and a lot of the guys you know that I grew up watching Tony do a set and All those guys.

That was the fun part about it.

Yeah.

He was named as let go, but he is, you want to talk about a guy who's been in the business 30 plus, he's done football too.

I think he still may do radio or other things with football, but That's a guy coming up next year who obviously is going to have all the time in the world.

And he's been through it.

You could ask him about... everything, you know, especially football.

Yeah, he'd

You've got to make a Monday every once in a while this fall, right?

Yes, absolutely, and I'm excited about it.

What?

Uh, I think we, you know, [clears throat] 'cause we spend, you s- spend a lot of time, we're sports guys.

We, we've got to, we've got to get into this thing, and we're sports guys.

You, you love hoops.

You're not just a football guy.

Cat Daddy just, and Justin Moore just don't make hit records.

These guys are well cultured.

That's a great, he, he, didn't he go, didn't he try out for the Chargers or something?

two

sandwiches.

And I was the milkman.

I was the milkman.

So when I was in school...

What you could order, you could get school lunch.

And occasionally I would get some potato puffs.

You're the

Was skiing your first love? Was golf your first love? And how much golf did you actually get to play as a kid?

Yeah.

Yes, Kelly.

Well, skiing was my first love.

I started skiing when I was, like, eight years old.

My folks owned a ski shop here in New England, so, um, I, I, I had access to, um, to all the great equipment.

I thought I would gonna, I thought I would go out west to either Utah or Colorado to, uh, pursue my skiing and, um, because, you know, i- here in New England, uh, golf is a very short-lived, um, a very short-lived timeframe, um ...

I was invincible." How did you get to that point? What was going so well in 1986 that you played at really an otherworldly level, Pat?

And he's incredible.

It ...

Yeah, there's a lot of guys who can make shots.

Um, you can watch guys in, in drills during practice.

Uh, but the ability to get open, create space, get the shot off quick.

Uh, and with, with ...

Another thing, everyone talks about his three-point shot for, and, and the reason for that.

And it, the, when you look at Steph's, um, his, the way he executes his three, would you say he's, he's nontraditional? Or I know he can get off any shot, but when it comes to just taking a cl- a clean three, how is his, how are his mechanics compared to yours?

... your thought on that?

Yeah, you know, we've seen unfortunately in, uh, my state of Massachusetts, where, you know, they have, you know, the number one pick in the draft, AJ Dybantsa, Boston kid.

He ends up playing his last year of high school in Utah.

So, you know, we've been ravaged when it comes to high school basketball in the Boston area, the state of Massachusetts.

And, you know, you, you, there's, there ...

A lot of the, those prep schools are in the New England area.

So I guess-

Yeah

Uh, what do you think about the, uh, the, this, the commitment of the, uh, the big 6'11" kid who is, uh, gonna re, uh, what do you call it? Reclassify.

I love it.

You know, it's funny how Coach Cal continues to add to this roster, and a lot has been made over the last couple years.

And even Coach Musk was the same way, where they talked about, "Hey, I'm only gonna play seven, eight guys." And now you see Coach Cal stockpiling a lot of these guys, and I think a big part of that is now you get five years.

And yes, you, you know, they'll make an NIL.

So I think it's, uh, a little bit easier to talk to these players and say, "Hey, you can..." And the, the new red shirt rule is beneficial because, or I, I, there's no red shirt rule.

W- uh, scratch that.

Yeah, it's just, I mean-

Uh, what do you think about the, uh, the, the s- the commitment of the, uh, the big 6'11" kid who is, uh, gonna re, uh, what do you call it? Reclassify.

Reclassify.I love it.

You know, it's funny how Coach Cal continues to add to this roster, and a lot has been made over the last couple of years.

And even Coach Muss was the same way, where they talked about, "Hey, I'm only gonna play seven, eight guys." And now you see Coach Cal stockpiling a lot of these guys.

And I think a big part of that is now you get five years.

And yes, you can, you know, and then make an NIL.

So I think it's, uh, a little bit easier to talk to these players and say, "Hey, you can..." And the, the new red shirt rule is beneficial because...

It's just-

Was it really emphasized, overemphasized, just because it's the area where so much history took

place? It was.

I mean, you know, we took a lot of field trips to, you know, whether it was the Freedom Trail.

But, you know, I've lived – so close you know i grew up a half a mile from bunker hill in the buck hill monument so you know we we so we would go so you guys remember the north end the little italy so that's where a lot of the the history is and we would just go down there to hang out a lot whether it's just go eat and mess around because we had friends that would sort of live in that area we used to go there's a uh that a couple basketball courts we we would go to so To answer your question, yeah, you know, you walk down the street and there's like a big statue of, you know, Al Rivera and his horse.

And then there's like a big sign with an engraving.

And we'd go to Faneuil Hall just to go eat.

Like I said, hang out because there's a bunch of bars down there.

Yes.

Was it really emphasized, overemphasized just because it's the area where so much history took place?

It was.

I mean, you know, we took a lot of field trips to, you know, whether it was the Freedom Trail.

But, you know, I've lived so close.

You know, I grew up a half a mile from Bunker Hill in the Bunker Hill Monument.

So, you know, we...

So we would go...

Finish

He did something only a few people have done

...

the lead he...

Yeah, the lead he built up was just so enormous.

I mean, you're going into the last day

dayDay with what was a six-shot lead or seven-shot lead.

Um, I'm a, I love, uh, Scottie Scheffler.

Right.

so i was gonna i was gonna ask that is is a couple g compare it you know if they said the same thing about a kept junior that he he was under size e you know they say they say brunson uh... is an undersized point guard uh... is it the same kind of daily is is it is a kept the kind of score that's what's in the answer is it is it two different things

uh... it's been more definitely the bodies uh...

the one thing that uh... want to have And, you know, A-Cup should be watching him.

That's a good actual comparison because there's nobody in the world that is as good as Brunson.

Change of speed, change of direction, understanding when to make contact to create space.

All those little things are what separates guys like Brunson to, you know, somebody who is averaging eight points in the NBA versus 28 points in the NBA.

or even 18 to 28.

It's on.

Finally, the talent comes back to New York.

Yeah, it was a special year.

It was New York.

The Knicks team, they were a fun team to watch because it was, although Jalen Brunson's MVP, but it was, the way they played together, the chemistry was a fun game to watch.

And, you know, I go a little bit back.

I played against Brunson's father in high school.

Wow.

Is it the same kind of deal? Is Acuff the kind of scorer that Brunson is, or is it two different things?

It's over,

Pat.

What do you think, Pat? What do you think, Pete? Yeah.

I certainly think so.

When you're talking about great American cities and great cities in general around the world, they all have their own energy.

And New York City's energy is different than anywhere else.

It's so massive.

I mean,