So, so quickly, because there's kind of this spectrum of like agency and apathy that people are kind of moving between every day, you know, for a number of different reasons, you know what I mean?

Oh, absolutely.

You know, what you're really getting at, Nick, is really important.

It's because the glue, that organizational glue starts to erode.

And so when that glue starts to erode, it starts to come apart.

You know, the environment, the pressures, the ambiguity really start to take their toll on people being able to function in a, you know, a way that maintains structure, integrity, ownership.

And I really think that that's actually when we start to have problems.

Totally.