So once you were kinda able to really double down and kinda find, um, your voice and really kind of be able to pinpoint, how did you go from being invisible and, um, having dyslexia to becoming a really professional coach, speaker, as well as a really successful author?

Yeah.

Well, um, I just wanted to be the person that worked harder than anybody else.

And so when I went to college, um, because I had dyslexia, there were all these resources that I could use if I wanted to.

I could have somebody go to class with me, take notes.

I could do tests separately and have as much time as I needed to to do the test.

And of course, I was like, "Nope, I don't wanna be different.

Um, what advice do you have for someone that might be going through a very difficult time and they feel like they're stuck and they can't really get out of this really bad place? What advice do you have for them of how they can overcome this state of worry and kind of state of panic right now?

So what initially attracted you to the corporate world and what did success mean to you at that time?

So to me, success was, well, my worth, right? like as a human, was tied to my success, my titles, my income, the status, the recognition.

So because of dyslexia, when I was very much invisible, where I felt seen was when I would have these accolades.

have be promoted quickly in a job i would get these titles i'd get these um these high-paying jobs and all of a sudden people were noticing me and they were seeing me and so then i was like oh my gosh well i got to keep doing this i need to keep hustling because that's my worth and if i don't have that then what worth am i i'm not i'm not worthy And so the journey that I learned over my career was that belief that my worth was tied to my title, my income, that worth was keeping me in a very dangerous place.

It was keeping me in this space where I was constantly overworking, which led to the burnout.

And so, and we all have these beliefs, every one of us has beliefs that have been formed since the moment we were born.

And oftentimes, we don't recognize that those beliefs are creating patterns in our life.

But yeah, before we do, let's talk about the quiet gift, right? So tell us about your book and what inspired you to write it.

Sure.

And I'm a very, I became a very independent person where I never asked for help 'cause I, I couldn't in my marriage.

And so the thought of having to lean on other people and ask people for health while I was, help while I was going through the cancer, um, was very hard for me to do because then it would mean that people would think I wasn't the strong person that I had, you know, made people believe that I was.

But leaning into the support that I had with my friends and my family and leaning into gratitude, that was probably the thing that got me through it, um, more than anything else.

And it, it's interesting because you don't think gratitude is something that can help you with a, with a health diagnosis.

But I started doing this gratitude practice when I was going through my divorce.

I had to move in with my parents while I was in the divorce and was the first time I had lived with them since I moved away to college.

Sure

What lesson did that renovation teach you about courage, resilience, and personal growth?

You know, it's interesting because when I decided to walk away, I was a single mom.

I had no idea how I was going to pay my mortgage or pay for groceries or health insurance or anything.

But it was this place where I believed that if I didn't walk away, that I was potentially going to have a heart attack because I was in a space where my blood pressure was in stage two hypertension, which causes heart disease, strokes, heart attacks.

And so that space was, that was scarier to me than the thought of starting over.

And so I had to literally look at my life And say, what are the things that fill me up, that get me excited? And it had always been coaching, whether I was coaching little kids soccer or I was coaching my managers at the company.

or I was coaching agents that were in our company as well.

What practical advice would you give someone who feels successful on the paper but exhausted inside?

gritty.

Let's get into the muck of it.

Well, it was really interesting because the burnout ultimately was because of this belief that I had.

that I had, because I have dyslexia, that I had to work harder, be harder, do more than anybody else to prove that I was worth and was able to be where I was in that position.

Because I started in that leadership position with everybody, all the other managers had been in there for 15 to 30 years.

And I step in and with a, in a few months, I'm running two offices and then I made the vice president of the company.

And so I was like, oh, my gosh, they're going to figure out that I don't know what the heck I'm doing.

And you mentioned the upcoming two day event, the success summit, talk about that for a moment.