And I'd be curious how you learned that and what role that production company may have played in that.

You know, I don't know if a lot of people will resonate with this, but it was definitely a journey, right? Because I think when you're young and you're in your career, you want to be able to control everything and go into situations thinking, like, I know everything.

And if I don't have to ask too many questions and I can just figure it out by myself, then everybody will look at me and say, oh, wow, look at what a great job this person did.

Or...

Oh, that person seems like they're really in control.

Right.

Like like they're they they can do it all.

But I think the curiosity piece is the biggest thing that I connect to because everybody wants to feel heard.