so the journey to baby number two easy not easy how did it compare to journey to baby number one so with Nora we weren't actively trying so we just fell pregnant

we were always we always knew that we wanted to have a child but we never thought like okay we're going to try this is the time we want it it just it just happened so I was a bit naive when it came to wanting a second child that I would just be as lucky And this time around when we were trying and I was tracking on the apps and we were kind of seeing the situation, it wasn't happening.

And I was, oh, I was kind of confused because I've never really been in that position before.

Obviously you hear stories, I have many friends who've gone through situations in IVF and really, I'm very sympathetic towards that.

So it was a bit like, oh, maybe it's not for us.

Maybe we have to potentially get more help and seek advice.

So we were trying for about eight months.

But she's going