Paghman

He had even fostered a group in his name in the Philippines, chopping jihadis in the Philippines.

And now he was, in the wake of 9-11, somehow he had made strong in Pagman, the old royal retreat on the hill just outside of Kabul, and controlled, at the time I went to see him, everything from the Intercontinental Hotel up that road to his lair.

And he was very watchful.

and not friendly to me.

And I made two trips to see him.

And I saw him once in a safe house in Kabul and I think once in Pagman.

And I was going to go a third time, a second time to Pagman and was warned against it.

There were killings taking place along that dirt road between Kabul and Pagman.

But lo and behold, Sayyaf remained in place after 9-11.

Where did I go to find Sayyaf? In Pagman, the old royal hill retreat just outside of Kabul.

He was not friendly, his men were not friendly, and people were killed along the access road between there and Kabul.

But even now he's in the mix in Afghanistan.