
Pack Matthews
Inventor and founder of Ikaria Design Company in Columbia, Missouri, creator of the ergonomic Soul Seat and Fidget Seat products that promote active, movement-focused sitting.
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Aug 18, 2026
Raising Dynamic Kids: Monkey Bars, Fidget Seats & Phone Boundaries
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Pack MatthewsGUEST
Um, yeah, and, and maybe a preschool, you know, associated, so that kids could take, spend some time with the preschoolers.

Pack MatthewsGUEST
But the, the research has shown that, um, and my own experience teaching in an urban one-room schoolhouse in Cambridge, Mass, once you don't do the monoculture anymore, you don't have the same kind of pests showing up, like bullying and, and who- if, if you have a monoculture in the classroom, the kids have to bully each other in order to differentiate themselves.

Pack MatthewsGUEST
So, yeah, so we learn from, uh, from what gardeners, you know, gr- regeneration gardening knows, that you have as, a diverse a mix of plants together.

Katy BowmanHOST
Um, well, what have children taught you about our human relationship to chairs that maybe you hadn't clued in with adults, if anything?