[paper rustles] Absolutely.

I reached out.

I mean, I did a lot of research.

I asked a load of adventure travel companies on the ground back in 2017 if they'd be willing to support us.

Obviously, the vast majority said absolutely not, 'cause they did not wanna take responsibility for two, two foreigners getting themselves into trouble in a very remote part of the country and going through quite an insecure part of the country at that time.

I think the only company that actually got back to me with a yes maybe was an organization called Remote River Expeditions.

How did you get that map, though? Did, did you have to rely on, like, Google Earth or satellite image- images or something like that?

Yeah, we did, we did a lot of work beforehand to try and map out the exact route.

Yeah, absolutely.

So we have an official website, kayakthemangok.com, and on there you'll find links to the film and the book.

So the film we just released on YouTube, essentially, so it's free for anyone to see.

It came out a few weeks ago.

We've also entered it into a bunch of film festivals, so we hope it does well.

It's quite short.

It's only 41 minutes.

What are some of the places that you would like to highlight here to our listeners?

And then their luck with the hippos ran out.

As soon as the sun started going down, we knew that we'd have to camp quite quickly 'cause it's very dangerous to keep paddling when it's dark 'cause you can't see obstacles and you can't see hippos.

So you're looking for a spot where you have easy access from the river, so you can drag yourself up quite easily, but not so easy that crocodiles can come up to where you're camping, or hippos.

You want somewhere nice and flat that's not waterlogged.

You want somewhere that provides wood for the fire, preferably some shade, that sort of thing.

So we'd always go, "Well, what about this place?" "No, no, let's keep going.

We can do better than that." Then it'd be kind of stick or twist as you went.

It was the police.

Yeah.

So I mean, I'd never heard of Klepper until Alfie produced one in Angola back in 2016.

So basically they're a German company.

They've been around since the very early 1900s, and essentially their design hasn't changed very much over the past hundred years.

So they make collapsible kayaks.

It's two, two main parts, which is the skeleton, which is made out of birchwood generally, so lightweight, flexible wood.

And then you just pull a skin over it, so like a canvas skin.

But in fact, wh- where, where did it end when you-