So when you started your educational, because obviously you did an educational degree and went on further, what was the point that you reached that you decided that neurodiversity needed to feature a lot more in your work?

I feel for me, that point came rather early.

I was, I would say I was about seven, seven to eight.

I have a cousin, we're the same age, just a few months apart.

And growing up, you know, I never noticed anything or thought anything was different about her until one particular day.

We went, we were on holiday, and so we went to visit a family friend.

And at that point, my cousin had to, like if she, she asks you a question and you answer, she would ask why.

So what do you, what's the situation now?