
Omid Arabian
Iranian-American mystic, teacher, and author who is founder and director of the YOUniversal Center in Los Angeles, teaching Persian mysticism and the works of Rumi, Hafez, and Attar.
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Sep 23, 2026
Culture | Attar's Conference of the Birds, Part 5
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1:50LeylaHOST
Just

Omid ArabianGUEST
Other than that, yeah, we are now on the verge of hopefully arriving at the destination of the journey.

Omid ArabianGUEST
And Attar tells us, this is now verse 38 in the guide, he says, آلامی پر مورد می بردند را بیش نرسیدند سی آن جایگا He says, even though a whole world of birds, alam means a world, a whole world of birds had set out on the journey, no more than 30 reached that place, reached that place of arrival.

Omid ArabianGUEST
So there was a striking contrast here between a world of birds, alamipormorg, and the final number of birds that arrived, which is 30.

Omid ArabianGUEST
Again, no spoilers yet, but something to note here is that the number 30 is not just chosen randomly.
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11:13LeylaHOST
So he
Culture | Attar's Conference of the Birds, Part 4
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Right.

Omid ArabianGUEST
But the good thing is that they're not disappointed or anxious enough to not go.

Omid ArabianGUEST
They don't give up on the idea of the journey because Ashtar tells us, bar-e-ishan bas-geran-o-rak-deraz.
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14:39LeylaHOST
Well, should we keep going on this section? Yeah, let me read a couple
Culture | Attar's Conference of the Birds, Part 3
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Ooh

Omid ArabianGUEST
And so it's almost like their confidence takes a little, uh, turn for the weakness, for the, for the worse when they see that the real journey is about to begin, and it's daunting.

Omid ArabianGUEST
He says, He says, and awe fell upon them upon seeing this path, upon their souls.
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6:25LeylaHOST
They're like, "Oh, I actually have to work
Culture | Attar's Conference of the Birds, Part 2
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4:48LeylaHOST
She says, all these forms of creation

Omid ArabianGUEST
Everything that's out in this world is reflections of the patterns of the feathers of Seymour.
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Yeah.
Culture | Attar's Conference of the Birds, Part 1
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6:38LeylaHOST
So

Omid ArabianGUEST
Other than that, like I say, he's gifted us several amazing works, but his most well-known and, as you said, most translated one is Manta Bote.

Omid ArabianGUEST
The title itself comes from Arabic and it comes from two words, which means bird or anything that flies.

Omid ArabianGUEST
And literally means speech from the root, which we have in Persian also to give a speech.
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11:47LeylaHOST
Okay, well, let's get into it.