applications would work

and what kind of AI would they need, for example, for agriculture in India that is a lifeline for billions of people.

And they're not an AI world.

So I think definitely would love to have your thoughts on some of that stuff intersectionally, like we're talking about policy making and policy assessments.

But going back to the pacing part, and I think this is one of the very confounding things to me when Dario says about, hey, how we're pacing things and we need to regulate AI through some mechanisms and then we'll even have people out of the badges sitting in our labs and then reviewing models and sounds very like you know like very alarmist and contrived but at the same time when you look at like when you step back for a moment the word pacing with capital P I think it's a compounding problem all the big like you said mathematicians to government websites getting hacked or supposedly getting hacked by a bit large language models I really wonder like the word you used, which is like a key word, the confusion, right? How much is it because lowercase pace of how we are looking at understanding things before we apply? And I think there's a lot of enterprise lack of programmatic patience, whether people take time to understand a technology before applying.

And I wonder like the pacing is not just about the control of the labs, but self-control and self-pacing of, look, I can wait on this technology for a year, and I'm not going to get left behind, right? I mean, if you look at Microsoft's ecosystem around co-pilot and stuff, it's just a mess, right? You can't keep up with that, right? So...

do want to like kind of get your thoughts about some of that idea like and i think you've been talking about the left-hand facing of understanding technology how to apply it how to actually diffuse it how to actually control and manage it and the right level of ai not just big shiny air and the other side the right hand side of the ai pacing is like frontier labs and and i think some of the stuff that they need to do is just not around card rooms but more about even you know, management of management of how they actually deliver.

I mean,