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Olly Goldenberg

Co-founder (with his wife Helen) of Children Can, a UK ministry founded in 2010 that equips churches and families to disciple children, after 15 years as children's pastors at Kensington Temple.

Sep 30, 2026

22:29
Yeah, there is that as well.
22:30
That's why I began by saying, well, the issue is not the Holy Spirit, if that's the case.
22:35
He is good.
22:37
Now, of course, there are other spirits.
22:39
And if we were to behave in a wrong way and kind of try and conjure up some kind of weird stuff, could we be opening our children to the demonic and all that kind of thing? I guess if you're really out of whack with the Lord...
22:51
Yes, and this is why we as leaders have to be aware, and particularly if you're leading a children's ministry, it's really important that you vet your leaders, not just with the DBS police checks or whatever in your country is the appropriate safeguarding and with good references, but also using that spirit of discernment of, is this person carrying a right spirit that is going to be good and appropriate for our children to be exposed to? Our concern isn't that we're trying to stop our children meeting with the Holy Spirit because we don't quite trust what God might do.
23:21
But more than our concern is that we set things up in a way that is not confrontational.

13 MINS LATER

35:56
If I'm wanting to create some space in my kids group on Sunday morning to help kids encounter the Holy Spirit for themselves and possibly for the first time, what should I do? Like I'm thinking, does it need to be really quiet? Do I have to have special music? What do I do? How do I do it?

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