Can you talk about how much production has grown? Like what's the average you're producing now compared to back at the start?

Yeah, so we've managed to increase the production significantly in a relatively short period of time.

So as Thomas talked about back in 2015, we were about 25 kilos of milk solids per animal per year.

Today we're sitting at about 40.

55 to 65 milk solids per animal, which is huge.

I sort of liken it to we've got the technology today that probably when we were breeding dairy cows 80, 90 years ago, we wish we had.

So we've taken the learnings from both here in New Zealand breeding cows, but also the years in Europe that they've spent redefining sheep genetics.

What do the economics of sheep milking look like for a farmer compared with conventional dairy, Olivia? And what does a farmer need to do right to make it stack up?

Hm.

And he is working up to be our head superintendent.

Um, we do not have a head superintendent, so we basically call him our superintendent.

Um, he still has a little learning to do, but he is doing an amazing job.

He's done a couple interviews already.

Um, you know, so we're very thankful for him.

Um, you know, we're very thankful for our son.

That's a good sign