really swiftly realised that

midwifery just wasn't for me.

It was not going to work.

I am somebody who needs sleep.

I can't do night shifts.

I would be a danger to society had I have gone down that career route.

Like most people, it got very close to when I was leaving school and I just needed something and I fell into finance, like most of us say.

as an admin.

I can do it all."

Yeah.

[laughs] Absolutely.

So I think one of the things that's really interesting from a bumping heads, obstacles perspective, like you've said, is I'm a real big believer in everybody has innate skills and talents, and we shouldn't be boxed just because of our job roles.

So Dan, for example, absolutely phenomenal financial planner, is incredibly insane with the amount of marketing genius that comes out of him, and he's like a true visionary.

So there's no way I would sit there and be like, "That's great, but you're a financial planner.

Don't touch the business.

Yeah