What, what drew you to the game?

Well, it all started with a, a change or a pivot in career for me.

Um, I was in a different industry before.

Um, I was an executive director for a mortgage company.

And, um, when the market fell in 2007, I decided to go back into what I was passionate about, which was teaching golf.

And, um, I started with, um, one school that I did an after-school golf enrichment program, and that quickly turned into two schools, into eight schools, into 33 schools on the island, and then I had the largest after-school golf enrichment program.

Um, from there it became, you know, parents wanted somewhere outside of school to learn, so I had to create the Green Grass Academy.

... and, and the way that you, parents behave towards you or react?