They lost two farms as a result of the reforms.

Our interest rates on the farm at Waikato went up to 31%.

Our money was just going down the gurgler really.

So after three years of trying to work our way out of it, it was just going downhill.

So we decided ourselves really to sell it.

We'd already lost so much money on the land.

And we come out with enough to buy a house in Gore.

She tells me the voice of Roger Douglas makes her blood boil, even now.