You know, what, why do we, why are we not, we had, you know, Bailey from Grey's Anatomy, the only one person we know on TV who's ever had a female heart attack.

I know.

I mean, it should have been one in three, to be honest, on Grace Anatomy for people to understand that it's like for women too.

I honestly, I've had this conversation with people and I don't know if it's because heart disease just skyrocketed or the risk of heart disease skyrockets after menopause for women.

And I don't know if it's because we haven't given that transition as much emphasis as we should have had in like medicine.

I don't understand why, to be honest, because every time I have this conversation, women are shocked.

They're like, my doctor has never talked to me about this.

Right.

We feel guilty.

Or we're gaslit because you're not supposed to be feeling like that.

I wish Dr.

B was here because she would have an acronym for all the things we need to do, you guys, to acknowledge all those feelings, emotions and like deal with them.

But I do, I do think for me, at least in my practice, that's like one of the very first things that I start talking about instead of just being like, breathe and meditate and do other things.

It's like, okay, can we just start with this? Right.

Because you and I have had this conversation and this has probably shifted.

It's always like, give me the basics that can actually help.

Right

... "What is the one thing that I need to do?" And unfortunately for all of us, there isn't, like, a single thing, right? It is all of these tiny, little changes that we make, that we're teaching you through this program.

It is about your sleep.

It is about feeding yourself properly.

It is about, you know, taking off a lot of that pressure on an already overloaded system that was not meant to live with the, you know, stress of 2026, and it's all of those things that actually bring your, your body back into balance.

It's not- ... a supplement.

And medications are great, and supplements are great, but they're not the foundation of what creates balance in your system.

Mm.

Really?

Oh, my God.

Oh, I am...

You guys, I'm a very good actress, but like, I actually, I have like a lot of anxiety.

I grew up with a lot of anxiety because I was like a perfectionist child and like my family, we had a lot of like very complicated family dynamics that I think I compensated for that and just kind of learned to move through the world.

as like a people pleaser perfectionist that gives you a lot of anxiety right like as you know so i think that uh for me i've allowed myself to feel my feelings and own them and recognize them and identify them and also um For me, honestly, it's about connection a lot of the times and connection with my safe people that make me feel safe and that I can... just break down in front of and laugh with or whatever it is but like I think that like Dr.

B it historically whenever I have felt anxious or depressed or for me it's mostly been anxious I retreat where now I realize that the thing that I need the most is connection social connection because we're wired for connection and so when I have that um it allows me to feel um safe in a way.

Because I do think

Yes.

And so then the challenge with that is that now you don't get the suppression of cortisol at night, and your melatonin can't rise in the middle of the night to kind of give you that deep restorative sleep.

And so with that chronic activation, that cortisol's gonna remain really elevated.

You're gonna drink the wine, and then the wine is gonna make you feel like, "Oh, I feel, like, a little bit sleepy," but... and then you're gonna eat the chips, and you're gonna eat all of the things that actually increase your temperature and feed into this cortisol pathway.

And your cortisol, not only does it not go, like, down enough, at 3:00 to 4:00 in the morning, when your cortisol's naturally supposed to be slowly rising to wake you up at 7:00, literally you've just fed that cortisol pathway, and now that cortisol's gonna be way higher, and at 3:00 to 4:00 in the morning you're gonna wake up hot and sweaty because you've increased that core body temperature.

And with a cortisol that's so elevated, that most of you know this, you're waking up at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning feeling wide awake, way more awake than you did at 7:00 in the morning when you were supposed-

Mm

... because your body goes into survival mode.

Yes.

It's very elite.

There's like two of them.

It's VIP.

It's very... [laughs] It, it is very- Very.

But for most of us, this is a journey, right? And like you said, this is very much about the consistency, because we're always taught that it's calories in, calories out, and you have to be perfect.

And the minute that- Yeah ... you deviate from this, like it all goes in the shitter, and you have to start all over again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's this process of, like, growth and peeling back a bunch of layers of things that, um-I guess, hinder your progress, whether it's mental, physical, or emotional, so you can move forward past a lot of these barriers, right? Because just like there are hormones that get involved and inflammation that gets involved, there is that mindset that Dr.

Paul was talking about, right? There is that negative thinking of like, "What if I fail?" And then you stop trying, and then you do fail.

And so when we take all of that into consideration and we legitimately break down the...

You guys, like for sure there's a calorie component to this-

Woo.

That version that decided that you wanna change, you wanted more energy, you wanted to like thrive and not just survive.

Like, that is a version of you that I want you to remember when things get hard, and when you go to a party, and when you eat that croissant, and when you don't wanna show up.