Um, this may really work out well for you, and I can see you growing in this field." And I started in development, have been blessed with amazing mentors and leaders that have poured into me every step along the way, and I really just count it as a, a blessing to be able to do this work, to be able to pour back into my community, and also to be able to pour back into future fundraisers as well.

Hi, my name is Olga Krajcak.

I am the principal and founder of 4D Philanthropy.

Also work with Vivere Group in Canada.

I'm a past AFP Canada board member, and I'm still involved with my chapter.

Really excited to be here and, uh, be part of this podcast.

About a different career move which can be related to the emerging leaders specifically, I think it happened for me three and a half years ago when I decided to venture into consulting.