How do you find working

with those? That's what keeps it being interesting because every year you start from scratch.

You have a new broadcaster.

You have a new team.

I...

I travel with a very small core team of technical and we try to go local as much as we can.

That's very important for us because if we just bring a full production in, do Eurovision and leave, Well, that was just a cost.

Yeah, exactly.