So how do you think through those things on how to grow a venture-backed company versus a bootstrap company?

Of course, if you have more venture and more money and more capital to deploy on your marketing, to deploy on different things, it looks easier.

But on the other hand, sometimes you just throw money on a program and you don't really solve it from the core.

Yes, it's challenging.

Yes, sometimes we think five times before we take any decision.

But I personally think it's much more healthy.

And if you grow in the right pace...

But that's what you have to do as a founder is you're making that bet on yourself and moving that forward.