What about, what would you say to people who might not be as sure of doing that or might resist that with what AI is doing? What might happen in the workforce? Is there any risk of being left behind?

Yes, that's a good question.

I think, I don't want to beat the drum and say that everybody has to use AI.

Every...

My AI journey is, is my personal journey.

But I do feel like to be lifelong learners, I think we also have to learn about the things, equally about the things that we're passionate about or interested in, but also equally the things that perhaps that frighten us or that we don't know about.

Because I think once, when we do, we move from a space of fear to a space of be- being able to control, control the situations or control the, uh, control the space that we are perhaps do not feel at our most strongest or our most comfortable or where we feel friction and challenge.

Mm-hmm.