Um, but so leading, taking that leading into Nello, tell us a little bit about Nello and because what you guys are building in or continue to build is something quite extraordinary in the world of water sports.

Yeah, it's a world of coincidences.

So Vila do Conde, where we are based, is a small city just north of Porto, close to the airport.

Also on a river? And this used to be back in the 15th, 16th century, used to be one of the different places in Portugal where the fleet of the Portuguese navigators was produced.

So this was already a well-known place for shipbuilding.

And then after that, it moved into the fishing industry.

into the fishing area, building a lot of big boats that went all the way to the North, to the North Atlantic for fishing and then the small fisheries.

But how did that happen? I mean, at what point did this become a fact that, okay, these are the best kayaks?