As someone who specializes in models that disrupt dominant church narratives and spatial justice as it relates to land, can you tell us and our listeners about the connections, the similarities and the dissimilarities that you see between conflicting socio-political and theological narratives in South Africa and in Palestine?

Thank you.

Thank you, Dee.

Thank you, Jesse, Tandi, for this introduction.

So for me, I think South Africa has a historical, sociopolitical and theological narratives that are essentially intertwined.

And Tandi mentioned a few of those.

In South Africa, we see historically parts of the Old Testament have been interpreted in a way where one group, and we see that in history mostly as the Afrikaners, see themselves as God's chosen people in South Africa.

I'm curious how you both see this happening in your specific contexts, or if you have other thoughts about this.