place, yeah, the same place where you did Rambling Roads is where you do your audio.

Yep.

So they had, so at the time when you first reached out to me, Murphy is like, really wants to be in this video.

He can totally be in it.

He's like on my lap right now.

Absolutely.

I was like, oh, I don't, you know, this sounds so interesting.

So what is next for you personally i know that um as of the time that we're chatting this is still a new book onward uh which is an anthology you edited of 16 climate fiction short stories for young reader and your own piece armadillo is in here for ya readers and you wrote the forward and put it all together which you seem to be really good at doing is putting stuff together gathering people