Talk about the evolution of arc identity.

Yeah, I think, you know, at the start of Arc Identity, I was using a lot of old songs that I'd written 10 years ago now, almost.

This was in 2016.

Back then I was kind of in this like folk era where everything that I wrote was an acoustic guitar.

You know, wake up in the morning, play some chords, write some stuff.

And there was no production involved.

I would go into a studio back then, record things, and it was like very folky and acoustic driven.

Talk about the different musical direction that you took on that song.