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Noah Haggerty

Sep 30, 2026

10:03
What does the science and the research say about Zone Zero?
10:07
So there are a few ways to study these things, like I said, in a lab where you have a very controlled setting.
10:13
And the goal in that kind of research is to basically understand the fire dynamics.
10:17
Like how does this chain reaction happen? The second kind is these kind of like post-fire forensic experiments.
10:23
analyses where you'll have fire officials go in after something like the Eaton or Palisades fires and they'll look at homes that survived and homes that didn't and try to piece together what actually happened there.
10:36
And then the third and final kind is, you know, looking at a ton of different fires, thousands and thousands of structures, and then seeing, you know, from a bird's eye view, homes that implemented zone zero versus homes that didn't? What's the percent that survive? And when we're looking at these lab studies, a lot of research has shown all of these pathways in which anything that could potentially ignite within five feet of the home can ignite the house.
11:03
That includes hydrated plants as well.

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24:18
Anything else that stood out to you from what the governor signed?
17:17
Where are we on some of those proposals? Do you feel like there has been any movement there?
17:23
This stuff takes time, and especially after disasters like the Palisades and Eaton fires, very, very understandably, the top concern from residents is, you know, how do I move back as soon as I can? And this isn't just about, you know, wanting the comfort of their own community.
17:42
Like, they literally are on... you know, getting consistent money from insurance companies that are to live somewhere else.
17:49
And they're saying, you know, by this date, that money will run out.
17:52
Or, you know, now I have an hour plus commute to bring my kid to school every day.
17:58
So there's so many pressures that are understandably pushing people to want to move back as soon as possible.
18:04
And so having those conversations about how do we build in a more resilient way can be really challenging right after disasters like these because you know anything that could conceivably add time or god forbid more bureaucracy to the process is very understandably a non-starter for a lot of fire survivors and so especially in the first year when we were hearing from a lot of the folks that did have those pressures that you know made it so that they had to move back as soon as possible.
19:17
What other states have been trying to do something like this? Has anyone else been successful?

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