What do you think makes the greats set apart from all the rest in your opinion?

Yeah, I would say probably the mindset and it's, It's a balance of putting in hard work and letting your body recover.

It's not everything about, oh, you're the hardest worker there is.

You put in the most effort because if you put in the most effort, your body is breaking down a lot more.

And so I think to become a great athlete, you have to have the mindset of, okay, I'm what are my physical limitations and what can I do to better myself the best out of workouts, easy days, hard days.

It's a balance and you really have to find it for yourself.

What do you think is more important, volume or intensity for you? Well, to be a good runner, At long distance, you have to have the volume.

What do you think was the moment in your career when you kind of started to see yourself not only, like you said, as a threat in Indiana, but also on a national stage? Was it your junior year? Talk me through some of your more early experiences in the sport and breaking through on the national scene and what that looked like for you.