So you're on a good str- you're on good track already here.

[laughs] Yes.

So, um, that was my...

We made our first knife.

It was like, I think it was a hickory handle.

I actually still have the knife.

I mean, it's the ugliest thing you'll ever see, but, uh, I do, I'm very proud of it.

So, uh, talk to me about what that and what that's done for, for your knife making abilities.