So how does the theory that you wrote about differ from practice you experienced as a leader of a healthcare IT infrastructure company?

Yeah, first of all, Tiasa, thank you for having me on your podcast.

One good thing about healthcare, if you want, is that it moves very slowly.

So a lot of things that you work on are still valid long time after that.

For me, it was always interesting how, why do the processes look like they do? And also how do the IT infrastructures look like and why are they looking like this? At this time, we were looking into hospitals much more than cross-institutional.

I could always see if I only look at the IT infrastructure or the software landscape within a hospital, I could always tell you, is this the university hospital? Is that the private led hospital? Is that a public hospital? Why could I see that? Give you one example.

So we were looking at one university hospital.

And with AI, how do you see that this focus on the basic layer could help Europe when it comes to AI development?