Remember when we're all talking about survival? I mean, this is not the case anymore, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

I think it started to grate on me so much this rhetoric of print is dead or print isn't dead, which kind of almost sounds worse, you know, that kind of you're protesting too much.

So for me, I wanted to go out with something really positive and magazines are here for good just feels...

I mean, for so many reasons, right? Not only that they are an item or a product that is here for good, something that is bringing some goodness into the world, but also that they're here permanently, right? This backlash against the internet, so many people leaving social media now and so many magazines that are launching and then doing things in real life, doing events and connecting with their readers in the real world.

So yeah, to me, it's what we should all be saying, you know, no more print is dead or print... is still alive.

Oh, those words just great.

Having said that, give us an idea about some of the panellists, some of the people that are also involved in this event.