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Nikhil Gupta
Founder & CEO of Determinant Materials, a Pensacola, FL startup using MicroParticle Refining to recover critical metals from e-waste.
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Oct 7, 2026
#294 The $3 Trillion Problem: Reindustrializing America’s Critical Mineral Supply | Nikhil Gupta (Determinant Materials)
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2:00Nikhil GuptaGUEST
I think it's a kind of standard, I mean, that's a pretty common question, I think, for a lot of innovative technology companies.
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2:07Nikhil GuptaGUEST
I mean, you could say, why didn't IBM do what Apple ended up doing, right? Why didn't NVIDIA, I mean, why didn't some competitor before NVIDIA do what NVIDIA's doing? So I think there's a huge aspect of innovator's dilemma.
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2:17Nikhil GuptaGUEST
On the panel earlier at, you know, we're at Climate Week, On the panel earlier, someone mentioned basically a lot of the innovation comes from outside the industry, right? So when you're stuck within the industry of metals, let's say, the metals industry, it's people coming up with their education, their PhDs, their background, the technology of the company, the assets, the know-how.
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2:40Nikhil GuptaGUEST
It's all geared towards what the status quo is, okay? There's a lot of embedded momentum behind that, right? Inertia.
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2:47Nikhil GuptaGUEST
We came at it as a fast-moving, innovative tech startup coming outside the industry.
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Silas MähnerHOST
Anything that you've observed that you think is like really going to be important going forward?
#77 Nikhil Gupta: Mining Isn't the Chokepoint. Refining Is.
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17:32JordanHOST
So can you just explain the difference between the two categories?
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17:36Nikhil GuptaGUEST
And in fact, I'm going to expand that question a little bit, if you don't mind.
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17:41Nikhil GuptaGUEST
So like the periodic table, like we have this goal that we want to eventually kind of produce all the metals and maybe even just kind of refine everything on the periodic table, be a one-stop shop.
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17:50Nikhil GuptaGUEST
The typical broad categories traditionally in metals were like precious metals and base metals.
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43:31JordanHOST
But like, you know, if there were a million different like weapons companies