What do you think can actually help with regards to progressing women into leadership roles?

Thank you.

That's a good question.

I remember in 2023 when Engineering UK published the report that said 38,000 women between the ages of 35 and 60 had left the engineering industry.

And I'm sat there thinking, how many are we in the first place? We're not even...

We make 51% of the population.

We're only 16% in the profession.

Where do you see opportunities for women in the AI space? And where are the risks of old inequalities just repeating into a new industry?

What does that idea bring up for you and how do you navigate the pressure to be a superwoman in the workplace?

That poem.

It was a beautiful one.

Yeah, was very, very deeply personal, something that I'd been mulling over for a long time and I'd been thinking about and thinking, surely it's not just me that feels this way.

This idea that we have to be that perfect person, we have to have done, you know, to be honoured, to be respected, we have to be all things to all people.

You have to be the best manager but at the same time you've got to be the strictest person that doesn't take any nonsense.

You've got to be the person in the meeting that asserts yourself while being quiet because you want other people to speak.

and uh and