Mm.

And it was like the height of their expectations, and people have even said off the stage, "Wow, I can't believe I'm playing in the Georgian Theatre." But then for other bands, I mean, I've, I've, uh, I, I go back even longer than David, so in my, in my time, uh, involved in this organization, seen local bands like Cat and Kane have had their play on Radio 2, played, played in Hyde Park.

Uh, Chapman Family, Benefits, people like that who've gone on to do, do big things as well.

So it's about each individual's measure of success.

And then we've had artists coming through who started off here as a member of one band, and then they've gone off to do other things in the creative industry.

That's right.

You know, and how important it is to towns.

I believe in Stockton on Tees.