But let's talk about how can you believe we don't have any details on why it starts, how to stop it, like period pain in general.

Girl, I'm telling you, it's crazy to think about that it is that painful.

And I've always talked about the fact that, yes, period pain is common, but debilitating period pain should never be normalized.

And yet it is.

And in fact, like you even said, you mentioned endo being as painful as it is.

And so many women go to the ER because of it.

And they're sent on their way after taking some medication because But the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists actually says that more than half of women and girls who menstruate actually experience period pain for one to two days every month.

I mean, diagnosis outside of like, it just feels good to have a label outside of that.

I think it's not uncommon and no one now would know what to do either.

No kidding.

I agree completely.

And I think for women who generally aren't really tracking their cycles, which I would say is the vast majority of women, we need to work on that ladies, but they really do struggle with this.

I think though, I did want to say, I think one of the biggest misconceptions about perimenopause is that there's one type of period change, but in reality, women can experience period Opposite ends of the spectrum, really.

Some develop these heavy, flooding, clotty, prolonged periods like what you just described, while others might notice periods that become lighter and lighter, and then they shorten, and sometimes they almost disappear.

I feel like both of these patterns happen in that same transition.

If people haven't started and now they're 42, 45, and they're either having flooding periods or they're skipping periods and they're stressed out that they're pregnant every month, where should they begin?

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My goodness, no.

And so when it came time to launch the certification program, I was like, "Okay, we're experimenting." And my team was like, "Oh, God, Nicole.

Okay.

This is a lot.

We're gonna do five events in one week? Okay." So we did that.

So we, you know, we hosted the program tour so people could see exactly what they were learning, and I really amped that up too.

Yeah.

So how can this be used as a temporary tool without somebody losing touch with their body signals? And I want to emphasize temporary tool.

Girl, I'm telling you, I had a moment actually, I will say it was about sometime last year and a college student had reached out to me.

She was working on I think a paper of some kind, or maybe a thesis.

I can't remember what she was working towards, but she wanted to interview me and talk to me about hormonal birth control and women using birth control devices and methods and various other things that were not fertility awareness based.

And I was like, sure, it sounds great.

Okay, cool.

And she took my period quiz and in my Fix Your Period membership, and the quiz is the sort of the entryway into it, We basically put like a red X next to all the types of hormonal birth control.

Again,