Maybe it's both equally the business side and philosophy, but does one stand out to you as more formative as in nature?

Oh, I mean, it was the philosophy completely.

And here's the thing, too.

I'm not putting one study over the other.

I think it was very much how it was approached by the university and the instructors and whatnot, because it was also a very community-based form of learning, right? So we were, like I mentioned, I was in this program with 60 students.

And, you know, I think that they expect anywhere from... 25 to maybe up to 50% of students to not stick with it for four years.

So I ended up having a pretty good-sized class.

timing, so on.