And his take on how AI should and should not be used in assessments is one of the most nuanced things we have heard on this podcast.

Yeah, so I think, I mean, it's a great question.

It's such a topical question.

I get it all the time in the different panel discussions that we have.

And I think for us as a business, if we just think about what AI has unlocked from a tech point of view, I came from a business we set up where we typically have to gather data while a student wrote.

and post that student completing their exam, upload all of that data to a server to process and generate a report in terms of understanding the behaviour of that exam.

Now with AI, we've been able to move to AI running locally on students' devices, meaning we actually don't need to upload these big files anymore and process that information on the server side.