Mm

... that's the first thing I noticed when I walked into Triple Eight, um, and that helped me make my decision that I didn't wanna be full-time anymore, because I walked in, and the, the culture there is just unbelievable.

So the support the drivers have, the support the engineers have, the mechanics.

Like the saying of, you know, get the business structure of the management and turn it upside down, and that's how people should be treated, is what Jamie does.

Like, they have a, a big lunch room there, and, um, they've a chef that's cooking for everyone full-time, and they have lunch.

And I looked over, and I'm like, "Oh, Jamie Whincup, the most successful driver in the history of supercars, owns Red Bull-

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I couldn't get in, so that was quite frustrating.

So was the Super 2 stuff already sorted pretty early in that stage or-

The Walkinshaws, like Craig was running at the time, Craig Wilson, he was pretty good at making me earn my keep.

So I was working at the workshop at the dealer team and I was like there.

I just sweep floors, kind of help clean Garth's car when he was there.

So I had to work there and then I worked at Sonic.

running my car.

So they kept the budget real tight and they're like, oh yeah, next year we'll help you out with like gearbox and upright servicing in a super two.

So I guess the Bathurst story, you know, first year as a rookie, all of that, like how did it all come about? What was the race like? Just the emotions after it?