And it

was pretty impressive.

That was in Chatham Central Hall.

And so I definitely had an idea that was something interesting, sonically and visually.

through my early teens, I got into bands like Duran Duran and Chic, where the bass was vocal and central.

And so my family was full of musicians, but all bedroom musicians.

My brothers all played guitar.

So do you read, I'm assuming, and how did you kind of develop those skills? Did you go into any kind of base education?