Like I remember when when uh andy wang and john hack were on like all the time we were talking about the untested all the time i would do year-end recap one for untested one for tested i did a full-on untested recap at the holiday show and i'd have andy wang and john hack on then i would do the ipf version like the tested version and i would have like the tested people and i dropped off the untested when like the recaps would be pretty light for a while there before colton where basically you'd just be recapping john hack's year like there wasn't like there wasn't it just fell off and untested people would be like yeah it died i don't know what to tell you it's dead it's not here now i don't think it's gone gone and i it can come back like things swing back real quick and you get yourself a larry wheels and a colton or whatever and things will not literally larry wheels but um and i we i was talking earlier about the crazy reach colton has you get a few people even half his size it can come back but What are your thoughts on this? Well, first, untested resurface, and then will we ever get back to the cultural divide that gets bridged?

I think untested is just going to keep dying, which is weird because I also think that steroids are on the rise.

But I think that maybe the culture, like the very specific, again, that monolith culture, I think is dying.

And the reason for that is I think that Raw powerlifting, or not raw, what the fuck am I saying? Raw powerlifting, yes, too, but also that combo rag culture powerlifting, IPF powerlifting, that elitist shit that I like.

It's much more accessible.

And in my opinion, I respect and love a lot of the untested individuals.

I don't respect the sport.

yeah