I mean, do you feel comfortable talking about it?

Oh, yeah.

No, of course.

No, I really am so grateful for the years I spent in the seminary.

Uh, when I graduated from Saline High School in 2006, uh, just outside of Ann Arbor, um, by the end of my time my senior year, I felt this r- really strong conviction, um, that, that seemingly to me did not come out of a lot of career considerations.

It really just...

It was one of the few times in my life where I really felt like God was calling me to something in particular, and that thing was to enter the seminary and to at least discern or be open to the idea of, of that ending was becoming a priest.

And it's getting a- almost quicker and faster.