Nick, can you maybe talk about that same idea? How is it that you guys decided to investigate this specific topic? What's the philosophy underlying it? And then tell us a little bit about the study you did and the impact or the outcomes of your research.

First of all, thanks for sharing some of those details, Ryan.

And thanks for having me, Robert.

I'm Nick Edwards.

I'm VP of product management at Cisco for the networking group.

So I focus on product strategy and helping customers navigate this world of AI for their campus networking environment.

So we think campus usually it's, oh, it's a big office campus.

Do you have some thoughts on what could be possible as we start adopting these real technologies life changing things instead of just adding on some new features to existing systems.