So I want you to maybe speak into a little bit of like some of the fruit you've seen when women are equipped.

Yeah, no, that's so good.

I want to back up to that phone call.

I think I also want to capture too that I feel like when you have created space within Go & Tell, I think a lot of times this is where it gets hard for me because I'm not like, I'm not trying to put any one or anything down, but I think a lot of times we have initiatives, especially within the Christian space where it's like come to the retreat, come to the the funnel and receive X, Y and Z, which I totally get.

I totally understand.

But I just love how you offer people like momentary equipping.

And then something pops up on your radar like that and it's 11 o'clock at night here and you answer the phone and encourage someone who's – it wasn't in the room where it happened.

Yeah.

That would be like 2018 to like 2022 treading lightly.

Well, can I back up to, and I think going into the like church years, all the things is obviously I did not handle it well.

And obviously like, I just, I just was like, It just felt like we had battles on every front.

And I was like, man, I don't even know like what battles you start with.

Because, you know, even the church wasn't even big enough to like, we were still in group form, not in like theology.

And then you would have all kinds of issues.

And so I think, but I just looking back, I just was like, man, I did not handle that well.

Yeah, I know.

That's right

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I don't wanna lose that.

And I think sometimes, you know, if there is this seed of favoritism in my heart that leads to sin, it's because I probably just lost perspective of who He is and who I am and who I once was and who I am now.

And I think it's just, James is just so beautiful in reminding us that, 'cause I, I feel like in chapter one, he's, like, talking about the internal struggle that you have in life as a believer, you know, as you face trials of many kinds and the things that happen in your own heart.

And then all of a sudden in chapter two, he's like, "Hey, I got some things I wanna talk to you about and how you see other people." [laughs] And it's like, wow.

Like, I just, I don't know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah