Did that continue? Did it drop off? Did it linger for quite a while? Because, I mean, your name became very synonymous with Big Brother for quite a long time.

I think, yeah, with that, I think your true friends know that a lot of the stories are made up.

Um, and your true friends know what you're really like.

Uh, so, you know, and it's not for me to explain to people that, you know, that's, that's a television series, that's an edit, that's how it is, because I don't need to...

I, I don't need to explain.

So yeah, no, it's, it's, it's an interesting phenomena to, uh, to be on, d- uh, from a perception point of view, what people in the public think to, to what your friends think, to what your family secretly think, so.

Do you think maybe people think you're a bit impenetrable, like it wouldn't hurt you?

Of course.