I would say to follow that thing that allows you to be a self-starter.

Yeah, for sure.

I think like if there's one takeaway from this podcast and even the, the demo I'm gonna do at the, the, the Hammer Inn, it's that you don't need a $20,000 business loan to get started, man.

You just need some fire in your heart.

That's it.

It's the same thing like throughout American history, throughout all history, people started with nothing and carved out a life to be proud of, and a business, and a family, and, uh, but you don't need, you don't need somebody selling you some crazy thing on, on Instagram to get started.

Like, uh, I g- I...

We all are