Yeah.

You don't have to be, like, 37 and with a company for 12 years before you can lead a project.

You know, if you're smart enough, you know, kind of, kind of get on with it.

And I suppose the, the final thing I'd say, to move onto a third rather than just two things, the power of three, is, um, is very much giving people, um, the platform to, to talk with senior leaders as well.

Um, I'll perhaps talk about this a bit later, but I've found a lot of the managers I had would want to hold senior relationships close to their, their chest, wouldn't let anybody else talk to other people.

Um, whereas I'm, you know, if you're in charge of the project, you do the work, you have the conversations.

So if it involves the CEO, you talk to the CEO.

Wow.