How do you think the legacy of Noel Ignatiev will be litigated?

Very much appreciated.

I differ with him in the sense it's not how the Irish became white.

The Irish were always white.

they were just an inferior kind of white people.

They were an inferior white race called the Celtic.

What is so hard for Americans to understand is that our sense of racial classification in which there are three real races, Negroid, Mongoloid, and Caucasoid, anthropologists gave us the answers in the time of the Second World War.

We need to go to,

Mm-hmm.

But white people were individuals, and the decisions and the lives they made, they often usually considered those individual decisions and an individual life, and it made sense to talk about American society as individualist.

The history that I read and write over and over and over again, I have Black people talking.

I see, hear Black people talking about us.

And I think one of the great things that Black people have offered to the United States is a sense of solidarity, is a sense of being connected to other people, even though you don't know them personally, and you're concerned with their welfare.

That is such a good, strong thing, and it's a gift of Blackness.

Before 2017, '18, white people didn't easily turn to solidarity thinking unless they were, say, members of unions or were socialists or communists or feminists.

Is there anything else you think that we should be thinking about?