And as far as I know, early results look promising.

Yes, early results, early kind of impact indicators look really promising and exciting.

What I find most exciting about this early feedback is that it's kind of, we're really hearing from young people how they're actually experiencing the programme, how they might look at applying it in their own lives, which is really rewarding to hear.

We take a lot of different pieces of information from everybody involved.

So various different participant samples in different schools and different places.

We also talk a lot to the facilitators and the school staff as well and to get general impressions about the programme and whether it might be effective from their point of view.

And I mean, some of the young people themselves, there's a really consistent theme around kind of engagement for them and relevance to them and their lives.

What would you say to someone that hit you with that skepticism?