Mm-hmm.

Uh, like, I hate driving.

But, uh, we lived an hour and a half from my in-laws, an hour and a half from my parents.

So we would have to go trek, well, I would say back to civilization.

We'd go down to the Brandywine River area.

For folks who know about Delaware and Pennsylvania, it's where the Wyeths would paint and such, and it's a beautiful area.

We would stop, we're big Wawa fans.

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