Yeah, yeah.

Well, the funny thing is I kind of came from more of a bodybuilder background than anything when it came to training.

I remember I came from a really conservative town where if you went to the gym, you just lifted weights.

You lifted heavy.

And really the main thing was you're just trying to put on mass to just make it look like you were physically strong.

So I came from that place first.

And then, but, but simultaneously while that was going on when I was young, like I was maybe about 16 when I started lifting weights, I was very much into like athletics.

But I'd love to know sort of what convinced you that mechanics and folks in biomechanics alone could have such a deep impact on a systemic level in all these other areas.

In all this time doing this, what are some of the movements, specific movements that nobody's doing in the mainstream that you just want to like rip your hair out and just be like, why aren't you training your system like this? Or does it just go deeper than that?

Well, I think I'd like to go into the whole thing with Paul Cech because I want to clear that up so people understand.

Because I've told people there's no way that that guy hasn't had an influence on me.

Dude, that guy had an influence on everybody.

The problem is that Paul Cech doesn't have KPIs.

Or let me put it this way.

Paul Cech does have his KPIs, his key performance indicators.

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